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It’s hard to keep up with the war in Iran. Despite recent claims from President Donald Trump that the conflict has “terminated,” hundreds of ships are still stranded in the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, and the ceasefire has never fully taken hold. Meanwhile, gas prices keep climbing, shortages are spreading, and economic uncertainty is growing. Is this really Trump’s “best plan ever?”
Today on Lever Time, David Sirota sits down with Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison, hosts of the foreign policy and global affairs podcast American Prestige. They examine the deeper meaning and long-term consequences of Trump’s war in Iran — including the Republican Party’s internal divisions over U.S. foreign policy, the role of Israel and China in the conflict, whether high gas prices are the new normal, and why, despite everything, they’re hopeful about our future.
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[00:00:00] David Sirota: Are we at war or not? Like, are we currently at war? Are we not at war? Like, where do we understand we are on that question?
[00:00:08] Derek Davison: I mean the other question you could have led with is how stupid does Donald Trump think everybody is?
[00:00:14] David Sirota: From The Lever's reader-supported newsroom, I'm David Sirota.
