In the new episode of our weekly podcast Lever Time, David Sirota sits down with writer and executive producer Frank Rich to discuss the series finale of HBO’s Succession.

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As the award-winning series comes to an end this Sunday, David and Frank take a look at Succession’s role in popular culture over the last five years, particularly its satire of the media industrial-complex and the American political system. Frank explains how the show offers a larger commentary on power and influence, but above all tells a story about a broken family. David also asks whether it’s plausible for an “intellectual fascist” like the character Jeryd Mencken to succeed in the Republican primary system.

A transcript of this episode is available here. You can also watch a video of the full interview with Frank below:

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